GLIMS Update: Global ASTER imaging reprioritization

dedieu at lgge.obs.ujf-grenoble.fr dedieu at lgge.obs.ujf-grenoble.fr
Mon Dec 5 02:28:15 MST 2005


Dear Jeff,

dear GLIMS colleagues,

I support stongly all initiative
to increase double ou triple
priority over the European Alps.

Because last 05 summer is a perfect
demonstration for image lacking example.

In despite of DAR request from different
stewarts (Corripio, Paul, Ranzi, Dedieu),
almost no ASTER recording were provided.

A recent overview on the Aster catalog at USGS
showed that the last recent image aquired
over the Western Europe is 196/027 from August, the 17th.

So, none over the Western Alps since last May.

There is nothing that we can use for glacier
mapping in the European Alps this year from ASTER.

Frank Paul wrote me only one scene has been acquired
from the hohe Tauern region on 29 july 2005 but
there is lots of snow in the image.

Landsat7 slc-off are so tripped that non usefull
for energy balance calculation.

And we provided field albedo measurements all summer long ...

This is a pity.

I hope the best about ASTER imaging reprioritization !

with all my best regards,

JPDedieu

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Selon Jeff Kargel <jkargel1054 at earthlink.net>:

> Dear GLIMS colleagues,
>
> YOUR COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS ARE NEEDED.
>
>
>
> BELOW ARE TWO ASTER IMAGE ACQUISITION RE-PRIORITIZATION SCHEMES (FOR FUTURE
> IMAGING).  ONE IS BASED SIMPLY ON A RANK ORDERING OF CLOUDINESS. CLOUDIER
> AREAS GET HIGHER PRIORITY. (PLEASE NOTE THAT NO REGIONS ARE SO CLOUDY THAT
> IT IS CONSIDERED HOPELESS. EVEN BHUTAN HAS SOME CLOUDY IMAGES THAT
> NEVERTHELESS HAVE MAJOR CLEAR AREAS WHERE GLACIERS ARE VISIBLE, AS ANDY
> KAAB'S WORK HAS SHOWN.)  I PREFER THE SECOND SCHEME, AS IT SHOULD ACHIEVE
> ROUGHLY ZERO NET CHANGE IN TOTAL ASTER IMAGING RESOURCES DEDICATED TO GLIMS
> BUT SHOULD ACHIEVE MORE UNIFORM AND MORE COMPLETE GLOBAL COVERAGE.
>
> THE TWO SCHEMES WILL BE SUMMARIZED AT A MEETING WITH ASTER MISSION
> OPERATIONS IN THE DEC. 11-15 TIMEFRAME.  A FINAL PLAN, BASED ON YOUR
> COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK, WILL BE SUBMITTED IN EARLY JANUARY 2006.
>
>
>
> -Jeffrey S. Kargel
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> SCHEME 1. REPRIORITIZATION BASED ON PERCENTAGE OF RETURNED IMAGES HAVING
> ¾10% CLOUDS.  THIS IS A SIMPLE RANK ORDERING BASED ON THIS CLOUD CRITERION.
>
>
>
> REGIONS REQUIRING MAJOR INCREASE OF PRIORITY:
>
>
>
> Bhutan                            0%
>
> Canada-Mackenzie Mountains         5%
>
> China-far east Tibet/Sichuan       5%
>
> Nepal                             6%
>
> Irian Jaya                       11%
>
> China-Kunlun Shan, Altun Shan    11%
>
> China-mid-eastern Tibet           12%
>
> China-western Tibet              17%
>
> Alaska-Kuskokwim Mountains        20%
>
> India- between Nepal & Pakistan  24%
>
> Pakistan/Afghanistan             24%
>
> Alaska-Aleutian Is. & Peninsula   24%
>
> High-latitude Antarctic "pointing" ring  --
>
>
>
> REGIONS REQUIRING SMALL INCREASE IN PRIORITY:
>
>
>
> New Zealand-North Island          25%
>
> Tajikistan/Kyrgyzstan            26%
>
> Canada-Rockies                    27%
>
> China/Kyrgzstan-Tian Shan         28%
>
> Russian Arctic-Novaya Zemlya      28%
>
> Iceland                          28%
>
> Alaska-Brooks Range              29%
>
> Ecuador and Colombia             30%
>
> Alaska- St. Elias/ panhandle      31%
>
> Mongolia and Russia-S Siberia    32%
>
> Russia-Kamchatka                 33%
>
> New Zealand-South Island          34%
>
> Norway-Svalbard                  34%
>
> Alaska-Chugach/Wrangells/AlaskaRg 35%
>
> Russia-Arctic-FrJosef/Northland   35%
>
> Europe-Alps                      36%
>
> Peru-Cordillera Blanca           37%
>
> Chile/Argentina-S.Patagonia Icefd 39%
>
>
>
> REGIONS NOT REQUIRING CHANGE OF PRIORITY:
>
>
>
> Norway-mainland                  44%
>
> Canadian Arctic-Devon Island      46%
>
> Canadian Arctic-Baffin Island    46%
>
> Europe-Pyrenees and Appennines    47%
>
> Russia-Eastern Siberia           47%
>
> U.S. -Cascades                   47%
>
> Canada-British Columbia           49%
>
>
>
> REGIONS REQUIRING DECREASE OF PRIORITY:
>
>
>
> Greenland-East Central           50%
>
> Chile-N Patagon. Icefd., N Chile  52%
>
> U.S.-Rockies                     52%
>
> Southern Peru/Bolivia            53%
>
> Russia and fmr Soviet-Caucasus   55%
>
> Greenland-Northwest              57%
>
> Antarctic Peninsula              60%
>
> Russia-Ural Mountains            61%
>
> East Antarctica-Scott/Borch/Oates 64%
>
> Canada Arctic-Axel Heib +Ellesm   65%
>
> Greenland- Central               77%
>
> Greenland-Northeast              79%
>
> Greenland-South                  82%
>
> West Antarc.-Ellsworth Land       93%
>
> East Antarctica-Wilkes Land coast 94%
>
> Greenland-West Central            96%
>
> West Antarc.-Ronne/Zumberge Coast 97%
>
>
>
> SCHEME 2. MODIFIED REPRIORITIZATION BASED ON PERCENTAGE OF RETURNED IMAGES
> HAVING ¾10% CLOUDS, WITH MOVEMENT UP OR DOWN THE LIST BASED ON IMPORTANCE TO
> PEOPLE (WATER RESOURCES, HAZARDS, TOURISM, POPULATION DENSITY NEARBY);
> IMPORTANCE TO CLIMATE CHANGE TRACKING; AND DENSITY (FREQUENCY) OF IMAGING
> AND EXISTENCE OF GAPS IN IMAGE COVERAGE.
>
>
>
> THE SUGGESTED DECREASED PRIORITIZATION OF THE CANADIAN HIGH ARCTIC AND
> GREENLAND IN SCHEME 2 IS NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE UNIMPORTANT (THEY ARE MAJOR
> FACTORS FOR SEA LEVEL AND OCEANIC CIRCULATION, HENCE CLIMATE FEEDBACKS), BUT
> RATHER THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY IMAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH GLIMS'
> OBJECTIVES.  OTHER REGIONS FALL WELL SHORT OF GLIMS IMAGING REQUIREMENTS.  I
> AM SUGGESTING A MORATORIUM ON IMAGING OF THE HIGH NORTHERN LATITUDES FOR A
> PERIOD OF 2 YEARS (SUMMER 2006 AND 2007) WHILE OTHER AREAS CAN BE IMAGED
> WITH GREATER SUCCESS, HOPEFULLY.
>
>
>
> REGIONS REQUIRING TRIPLED PRIORITY:
>
>
>
> Bhutan                            0%
>
> Canada-Mackenzie Mountains         5%
>
> China-far east Tibet/Sichuan       5%
>
> Nepal                             6%
>
> Irian Jaya                       11%
>
> China-Kunlun Shan, Altun Shan    11%
>
> China-mid-eastern Tibet           12%
>
> China-western Tibet              17%
>
> India- between Nepal & Pakistan  24%
>
> Pakistan/Afghanistan             24%
>
> Tajikistan/Kyrgyzstan            26%
>
> China/Kyrgzstan-Tian Shan         28%
>
> Ecuador and Colombia             30%
>
> Alaska- St. Elias/ panhandle      31%
>
> Alaska-Chugach/Wrangells/AlaskaRg 35%
>
> Europe-Alps                      36%
>
> Peru-Cordillera Blanca           37%
>
> Chile/Argentina-S.Patagonia Icefd 39%
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> REGIONS REQUIRING DOUBLED PRIORITY:
>
>
>
> Alaska-Kuskokwim Mountains        20%
>
> Alaska-Aleutian Is. & Peninsula   24%
>
> New Zealand-North Island          25%
>
> Canada-Rockies                   27%
>
> Russian Arctic-Novaya Zemlya      28%
>
> Iceland                          28%
>
> Alaska-Brooks Range              29%
>
> Mongolia and Russia-S Siberia    32%
>
> Russia-Kamchatka                 33%
>
> New Zealand-South Island          34%
>
> Norway-Svalbard                  34%
>
> Russia-Arctic-FrJosef/Northland   35%
>
> U.S. -Cascades                   47%
>
>
>
>
>
> REGIONS NOT TO HAVE A CHANGE OF PRIORITY:
>
>
>
> Norway-mainland                  44%
>
> Canadian Arctic-Devon Island      46%
>
> Canadian Arctic-Baffin Island    46%
>
> Europe-Pyrenees and Appennines    47%
>
> Russia-Eastern Siberia           47%
>
> Canada-British Columbia           49%
>
> Chile-N Patagon. Icefd., N Chile  52%
>
> U.S.-Rockies                     52%
>
> Southern Peru/Bolivia            53%
>
> Russia and fmr Soviet-Caucasus   55%
>
> Antarctic Peninsula              60%
>
> Russia-Ural Mountains            61%
>
> East Antarctica-Scott/Borch/Oates 64%
>
> West Antarc.-Ellsworth Land       93%
>
> East Antarctica-Wilkes Land coast 94%
>
> West Antarc.-Ronne/Zumberge Coast 97%
>
>
>
>
>
> REGIONS REQUIRING DECREASE OF PRIORITY:
>
>
>
> Greenland-East Central           50%
>
> Greenland-Northwest              57%
>
> Canada Arctic-Axel Heib +Ellesm   65%
>
> Greenland- Central               77%
>
> Greenland-Northeast               79%
>
> Greenland-South                  82%
>
> Greenland-West Central           96%
>
>
>



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