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color:#1F497D">Agreed Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Can the article please refer to the college of engineering and
the department of geography combined effort. You should do the wire,
national papers and also approach the local Tucson press for this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Jeffrey Kargel [mailto:jeffreyskargel@hotmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bruce Raup<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Greg Leonard; Patrick Candelaria; Sharad Joshi; Dhurba Basnet; Mark
Patterson-2; Dhananjay Regmi; Roberto Furfaro; Wolfgang Fink; Thomas
Wagner-NASA Manager for GLIMS project; Michael Abrams; GLIMS mailing list; Arun
Shrestha; Pradeep Mool; Basanta Shreshtha-ICIMOD<br>
<b>Subject:</b> FW: Imja lake image<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Dear
GLIMS and GAPHAZ members and GLIMS sponsor (NASA),<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">As
I'll report shortly to those of you not on the expedition, we had a successful
deployment on Imja Lake (near Mount Everest) of a radio control boat with sonar
on Oct 12-13, first on one of the ponds on the terminal moraine and then over
the west end of the main lake. We also have great helicopter-borne hi-def
video and rapid-fire 18 Mpixel still imagery, which will be used for digital
terrain generation, which will be used to examine changes in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I
also just reviewed Dhurba Basnet's partially edited series of video, showing
both the cultural and scientific aspects of our expedition. How
wonderful!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I
refer you to a recent ALI (Earth Observatory) press release of Imja
Lake, http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=46405&src=eoa-iotd.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Bruce
Raup kindly alerted me to it. I am pleased to see NASA imaging resources
dedicating attention to the Himalaya, and this lake. I write with one
concern in mind about the press release.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Since
this expedition was funded by NASA/GLIMS, and things are moving so swiftly with
documentary production (both Dhurba's and the Discovery-Asia documentary filmed
by Pat Fries) and also with this press release, I am thinking that we have to
develop a press release or Eos article to show the how and why of our
expedition and the state of this lake. I want to emphasize the
politically and humanly sensitive nature of any discussion of glacier lake
hazards in general, and the necessity of making sure that any public statements
about hazards are scientifically based. Imja Tso has been listed as one
of the three most dangerous Nepali lakes by one study; however, a key finding
by our colleagues at ICIMOD is that this lake is much more stable than had been
supposed by some researchers a few years ago, and any revised listing of
"Nepal's Most Dangerous Lakes" would not likely include this lake or
would qualify its inclusion and place low on the list. It is, however,
continuing a rapid evolution initiated in the early 1960's, and that
morphological development warrants close monitoring due to its basic science
interest, due to intense scrutiny and a rich data archive, its applicability to
process inferences to other lakes, and due to its potential future
redevelopment in future decades in ways that may reintroduce heightened
concern. I would state here categorically that this particular lake, at
this time, does not appear to pose an exceptional hazard. Like any large
alpine lake in areas of high relief, some combination of natural catastrophes,
such as a large earthquake and mass movements, could of course change the
situation abruptly, but this is just a "normal" part of existing
anywhere in a highly active plate tectonic convergent zone and does not elevate
this lake's hazard potential to anything that should be unduly concerning to
residents (in my opinion). Fortunately the press release does not
indicate any alarming shift in the lake's dynamics, and our expedition clearly
concurs with this absence of alarm.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Related
to the phrasing of text in the ALI press release, I must disavow any connection
of the press release to GLIMS. That was not our work, not our words.
The caption is not especially inaccurate, but I generally have concern
about press releases that make relatively casual reference to glacial hazards
and tends to elevate the hazard due to one situation by citing another
situation, as this press release does. Perhaps more so, I would just
rather see more consultation with the local experts and agencies, and not see
references to gray literature, which was at the root of the "2035"
fiasco. I don't think this ALI press release verges toward that, but I am
wanting to institute more order in how we use NASA resources and media outlets
to report these types of things. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">GLIMS
will promptly prepare a press release or Eos article or conference abstract
DRAFT to summarize the state of the lake and the hazard situation as best we
understand it. I will submit the DRAFT to ICIMOD and Tribhuvan University
experts and invite their participation, and that of GAPHAZ, in production of a
clarifying statement to place the ALI press release into context. At the
same time, I will disavow any press statements made regarding the GLIMS project
at Imja Lake that have not been cleared by GLIMS (ultimately me), ICIMOD, and
Tribhuvan University, since this was a joint project. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Bruce: Thanks
for the heads-up on the ALI acquisition (Oct 4, 2010). There was also a
recent (August or September 2010) ASTER image, with partial clouds, but useful
nonetheless. Our in situ observations indicate recent calving of the
glacier's leading edge (minor calving; nothing overly dramatic, but still a
part of the evolving glacier and lake). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Greg:
Can you obtain the ALI scene, as well as older ASTER scenes, and then we can
extend Sharad's lake development time series?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">--Jeff
Kargel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<br>
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:05:45 -0600<br>
> From: braup@nsidc.org<br>
> To: jeffreyskargel@hotmail.com<br>
> Subject: Imja lake image<br>
> <br>
> Jeff,<br>
> <br>
> See the link to an image of Imja Tsho below.<br>
> <br>
> Bruce<br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Bruce H. RAUP<br>
> National Snow and Ice Data Center<br>
> University of Colorado<br>
> 449 UCB, Boulder, CO 80309<br>
> Phone: 303-492-8814<br>
> http://cires.colorado.edu/~braup/<br>
> <br>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:30:02 -0400 (EDT)<br>
> From: eo-announce@lists.nasa.gov<br>
> To: eo-announce@lists.nasa.gov<br>
> Subject: [eo-announce] Earth Observatory: What's New Week of 19 October
2010<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The latest from NASA's Earth Observatory (19 October 2010)<br>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> <br>
> Latest Images:<br>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/<br>
> <br>
> * Susitna Glacier, Alaska<br>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=46449&src=eoa-iotd<br>
> <br>
> * Super Typhoon Megi<br>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=46425&src=eoa-iotd<br>
> <br>
> * Pyramid Lake, Nevada<br>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=46402&src=eoa-iotd<br>
> <br>
> * Imja Tsho, Nepal<br>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=46405&src=eoa-iotd<br>
> <br>
> * Fall Colors in the Allegheny Mountains<br>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=46394&src=eoa-iotd<br>
> <br>
> * Hurricane Paula<br>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=46384&src=eoa-iotd<br>
> <br>
> * Smog over China<br>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=46375&src=eoa-iotd<br>
> <br>
> * Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, Utah<br>
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=46365&src=eoa-iotd<br>
> <br>
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> Elegant Figures<br>
> * Tropical Storm Danielle<br>
> Strong convection created ???hot towers??? near the eye of Tropical Storm
Danielle.<br>
>
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/elegantfigures/?p=215&src=eoa-blogs<br>
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